Shoots the guy dead.
Shay and Berg are not relatives, since as far as we know there's nothing on the AC lore which states that. And if that's the case, there's no reason at all to ask the MC to go there and watch. They didn't have to include it at all. The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. Apparently, he will be bad news for the modern day Assassins, and would like to see him how he will do that. Who is this random American guy trying to sound Finnish in Rogue? Wooo! You just didn't know that shay would become one later on, so they didn't say it. From there, Berg called his superiors and convinced them to allow him to follow the As… I'm super picky with continuity, so I was super relieved to see that Otso still had his facial scar from when he appeared in Brahman. My theory is that Shay, who is known to have trained his son and grandson in freerunning, probably encouraged them to join the Templar Order. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. His outfit was passed down. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the assassinscreed community. The email address for your Ubisoft account is currently: We have sent you an e-mail to enable you to verify your email address.
Only flaw with this theory is that Otso Berg is very clearly a German name and Shay was Irish. He was the one who kidnapped William Miles in AC3, iirc.
Juhani Otso Berg firmly believed in the Templar order, its mission and goals even if if he only trusted a very select few within the organisation.
there is a good chance for him to be one of the main villains of a story arc in the modern day. Otso: "So, when do we start" Best dad ever, since Haytham.
I like how his outfit screams "BADASS" and also is similar to Shay's much in the same way Desmond's was similar to Altair's and Ezio's, and the idea that we actually played as a villainous Templar once is great (Shay isn't really a villain, but I can't find a redeeming quality in Otso Berg). Both characters have been more complex and interesting in their cross media appearances than the games. Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. UBISOOOOOOFT!! Just because it hasn't been confirmed doesn't mean it's not possible. That's actually an interesting piece of insight you have in the game. So, fast forward to Berg at Abstergo. That's actually an interesting piece of insight you have in the game. That one is a given for a few reasons. In order to be more efficient in your search, in what forum do you want to search ?
I personally had no problem with the quote.
He has a daughter and everything so he might even have a soul!
This is a really interesting theory.
I wasn't saying that are for sure relatives. For news, discussion and more about Ubisoft's Assassin's Creed franchise. Eventually down the line, one of his descendants ends up in Finland due to the global nature of the Templar Order. That's actually an interesting piece of insight you have in the game. All suggestions are welcome, just please keep them to PMs so we can keep the comments on topic. This implies that he is familiar with Shay at least by rumor. What did you think of Berg's appearance in Rogue, initially? Edit with comparison pictures: https://imgur.com/gallery/8AF6q. Also, he kidnapped William Miles. Well, he was trained-at least partially-by Danny Cross. That means he would have seen Shay's memories before Rogue.
And that statement is more or less true. I think having Shay's family be a curse on the Assassins for generations would be awesome. Assassin's Creed: Valhalla - The Viking Chronicle of Otso Berg (Master Templar) A viking lore chronicle of the Assassin's Brotherhood & Templar Order, from the historical viewpoint of Master Templar, Juhani Otso Berg; in conjunction with his personal voice recordings of his nordic past-life presented in Assassin's Creed: Rogue. A name change later down the family line created Otso Berg while they live in Finland. He said he used an animus once to relive the memories of one ancestor.
Too many of that stuff slips by in this series, so it was really nice to see that. His son though, would've grown up on stories from his grandfather on what a great man Shay was. He didn't mean exactly an important assassin.
I was disappointed when I read on his wiki page that Otso Berg is (or would be, if he were real) younger than me.
This has made me realize he's kind of a hypocrite. In his age he offed the colonial brotherhood, and in the modern day he's used as propaganda. Yet here he his killing Templar guards for upsetting his daughter and let's say his daughter became an assassin I doubt he would kill her. Also, I flipped the fuck out when I found out he was in Rogue, especially after he made an appearance. I just hope it's not down to reused assets due to time constraints and smaller dev team :/. He is supposed to have a sick daughter! I never thought to compare him to Shay, but I'm glad to see such a strong, modern day enemy. Not Shay.
Press J to jump to the feed. There's plenty of years for it to have happened in, and they are very similar characters. What did you think about Berg's character at this point? It would be more like they have a bigger enemy to deal with that Abstergo's too blind to see, like the Instruments of the First Civilization group. It seems very uneducated of him to think so. Answer a few of them or all of them, it doesn’t matter, the goal here is to spark discussion so remember to respond to people's opinions if you agree or disagree on a specific point!
I'm guessing Shay's outfit would have been passed down to each new member of the order, eventually becoming a keepsake of Berg's grandfather when such outfits became unpractical. I hope they would actually show more of Otso Berg as a character, he seems more mysterious (there are still some unsolved questions) and there is a good chance for him to be one of the main villains of a story arc in the modern day.
That Yggdrasil pin doesn't seem like a case of reused assets. I hope they would actually show more of Otso Berg as a character, he seems more mysterious (there are still some unsolved questions).
I know he's in rogue and was part of the multiplayer story, but I feel like at this point he's a Daniel Cross wannabe. He's an antagonist you fear and hate, but he fights for the Templars for a reason we can all understand.
WHAT THE HELL!? He looks and acts like some weathered, 50 year old soldier, but he probably watched power rangers as a kid. He meant as a person. For Assassin's Creed Rogue on the PlayStation 3, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Is Otso Berg...(Spoilers)". I read it as "shay is the most important assassin for our Templar purposes who ever lived". In his audio log about haytham he criticizes him for killing his grand master for murdering Edward, (saying it's petty emotion) and likewise criticizes him for not killing Connor. A badass Finnish Templar knight! I hope they would actually show more of Otso Berg as a character, he seems more mysterious (there are still some unsolved questions) and there is a good chance for him to be one of the main villains of a story arc in the modern day. But bearing that in mind, I find him a fascinating character. Well, the "Templar" comics from Titan and the ongoing series "Uprising" do feature Otso as a main character and flesh out his personality a bit more. What did you think of Berg's appearance in Brahman? I can't really say I know much about the guy.
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Berg used an Animus before the incident in Rogue. Otso: "Some guy made my daughter, upset. Made with Adobe Premiere Elements. Also, his outfit is his own, but it's color scheme and practical style is very reminiscent of Shay.
Berg was interested on search through the memories of shay because he was already known by the Templars and Assassin's before, but they didn't have much details on his life, that was the first time they could access those memories. He even saw the memories o a Viking ancestor. Later I noticed that Berg's outfit is heavily influenced by Shay's, even bearing the World Tree symbol on it. In order to create threads, posts, and interact with the Ubisoft forums you need to have a Ubisoft account with a verified email address.
I'd call that important.
So why does Otso think Shay is "the most important Assassin to have lived?". He hears the name Cormac and it reminds him of his childhood stories, so he takes an interest.
Vividly remembering one of his audio logs.
because Shay "realised the Assassins were Wrong" converted to the Templars "the good guys" then pretty much single handedly destroyed an entire brotherhood. I remember reading in the Wild Mass Guessing section for the series on TV Tropes about this: that Otso and Viola would leave the Templars, but not to join the Assassins. What did you think about Berg's role in Rogue? Verifying your email address also improves the security of your Ubisoft account, helps us provide you better support, and ensures you don't miss out on exclusive content, newsletters, and other special offers.
12 days later on November 28, 2012, after an attack on the Abstergo campus by the Assassin Harlan T. Cunningham killed four Abstergo hackers and destroyed servers, Berg tailed Cunningham on the regional road SR2 in Italy.
If he didn't know who Shay was exactly, how did he manage to base his attire on him?
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